Okok,in spite of all the nice intentions of Youth Avenue in trying to coax a cordial relationship and decent cohesion between JC,ITE and Poly students,thanks to ITE West,RJC and I dunno which Poly,we still have some black sheep in some JCs who thinks they are more superior than Poly students,blackmailing most of us the innocent ones in the process.SHAME ON YOU YOB!!
Apparently you can do anything in cyberspace,but not to the extent where you can call Poly students the following.I've taken this and a few other stuff from the New Paper.All rights reserved to them
Stupid - 'If someone can't even meet the minimum cut-off to enter a JC, it's just plain sad'
Childish - 'People from poly should know their place'
In fact,that sparked out an all out war.Poly students were ostensibly upset at such mindless generalisations,smashing back at their JC counterparts being illogical thinkers and being like nerds.if that was so,I wouldn't be surprised(or even amused) if the police would have to start prepping for an all out civil war at Orchard Road.In fact the need for Youth Avenue would have been clearly presented,and we need a wider reach where promoting such cohesion is concerned
Coming from a JC student,I believe that the lack of interaction between Poly and JC students,and even ITE students,are a concern as one more event such as this would have been disastrous to efforts like Youth Avenue.In part that has led to the formation of stereotypes between all the parties,having been ill informed of how each other does their stuff.I use this post to clarify all those stereotypes that has been here for so long.I try to be impartial as far as possible
'If someone can't even meet the minimum cut-off to enter a JC, it's just plain sad'
actually that's true to a certain extent,given we are in a meritocratic society.BUT Redpony WASN'T SUPPOSED TO USE THAT TO SLAM POLY STUDENTS!Poly students have their freedom to go to a poly to further their education even when they meet the minimum cutoff for any JC,and you won't be surprised if you see people with single digits having a direction and decide Poly is better for them.
Lest you forgot,there are people who are desperate for a JC-like education even if they neither meet the cutoff points nor wanna go poly at all.Just go to Millenia Institute and you'll know why.and pardon my words,but I think they are on a downward spiral
'People from poly should know their place'-
awfully childish.like Redpony didn't think carefully.again this is an example of how deep-seated stereotypes can be,particularly where university admission are concerned.most JC students think that their Poly counterparts won't be able to make it in plum courses such as engineering,law and medicine(FYI,we're gonna have a doc who took the unconventional route to medical school from Poly) and they won't be able to even get admitted into courses,let alone cope with university and get a degree.Poly students,in contrast think JC students are surefire get degree one.
This statement is rendered false since it is known that some Poly students have more hunger,verve and drive than their counterparts who are in/graduated from JC.Not that I'm siding with them,but admit it,some JC students think life's a piece of cake after they've got their A level cert and a cushy reservation for a place in the university.in fact,redpony seems as if he's still living in the 1980s...damn
'The fact that we can do better in all the exams up till now means that we have a better learning ability than the rest of you. We still do well in subjects we don't like. Put an average JC student in a poly and he'll ace everything. HTML? Teach it to any JC student and he will definitely master it in less than half the time poly people take. I don't see how the poly kids can ever do better than any jc boy when they can't even do well for the O Levels. O Levels is just elementary stuff. Simple maths, simple science and basic mastery of your languages.'-
Time and again,I would want to emphasise that Poly and JC students have different abilities!what we're tested are different.While JC students get tested on more challenging theories to challenge their breadth in learning,the Poly dudes are examined on their depth of learning through practicals,coursework and the heck.whatever the case they are meant to be rigorous,but JC students has a more intense,if shorter experience
In fact you might be tempted to experiment with JC students putting them in a Poly in the false hope he will master everything,and that when Poly students are put in a JC they can't even understand anything.What i predict is that the JC dude will wish he would have gone back to his mates even if he excelled while the Poly dude would have had impressed the tutor(s) with their alternate prespectives even if they had to take a longer time to understand
And the O levels isn't a be-all end all for students.sometimes people who did badly for their A levels are worse off than their friends in Poly.I'm not kidding since I'm from a JC.there has been a few seniors who fall short of expectations and wished they had done somewhat better
'...I really wish I have as much time as the rest of you. Poly people have all the time. Like you need to put in any effort to get a diploma. LOL. I can't maple as much. I'm just browsing the forums and doing my work at the same time.'
Are you sure??Poly people have all the time...to do what they really want,and serve the society.have you ever noticed that most people who do social work and all the help are from poly.ALL because JC students love to give the same old rehashed excuse that they have no time because they want to mug.I know,because I'm guilty of giving this excuse before.In fact,if you add their coursework and other things together,they wished they have as much time as the JC students to finish their work so they can put what they learnt into practice.and obviously redpony was lying when he was multitasking.
'You think JC student so good, ah? In fact they are worse - they can't even think logically.
'They only know how to memorise books. So what if you are good in memorising but your mind is not flexible? You still lose out.'-a poly student obviously incensed by redpony
This is a fallacy.We ain't that good as some poly people expected.neither we're worse.If we can't think logically,we wouldn't even have been in JC at all!And who said we only know how to memorise books?I'd beg to differ because we ain't just those nutcases who only read tutorials and do them.WE have our own CCAs to take care of,CIP and other activities.we're just as clever and we also know the importance of CCA and whatsoever have you so that we don't lose out
Poly people has their minds trained to be flexible in one way.Are you telling me that JC students' minds aren't flexible?A JC student might as well rebut a Poly student saying the above quote by saying that they are made to think flexible in another way,and it's futile to compare with each other's systems
'...JC is for nerds'-another poly student who opted for poly instead of JC even with a swee score
Sure,there are nerds in JC,but is it assumed that JC are for nerds because there are a few nerds?I can tell you that in JC there are some people who do not fit in a clearcut category.there are just as much nerdy sheep as there are the amount of black sheep.JC students can be just as hyper as Poly students.and actually I wouldn't want to expose it,there are a few nerds in Poly,though I bet they would be afraid to admit it.I believe that we should celebrate diversity in schools instead of pigeonholing and stereotyping what type of students would be associated with whatever institutions
In my opinion,being a Poly student is very much different from being a JC student.come to think of it,whatever the Poly student lacks in his hard facts,he more than makes up for it with a better common sense and being more streetsmart,self disciplined and independent.Up till now there are still a few JC students who still act as if the whole damned wide world owes them a living even when they 'mature' and go to university.what the poly student would feel thankful about is that they weren't whiners in the end.If redpony thinks only JC students can succeed,the hard fact is that there are some poly people who actually end up serving the society and be a boon to their occupation,friends and the economy in general,while there are still other JC graduates who got too complacent and then fall by the wayside
In conclusion,to the user called Redpony,PLEASE...I'M BEGGING YOU,PLEASE,IN THE NAME OF ALL THE JC STUDENTS WHOM YOU'VE BLACKMAILED AND IN THE INTERESTS OF SOCIAL COHESION,PLEASE SHOW YOUR FACE RIGHT AWAY AND GIVE A WRITTEN APOLOGY TO ANYONE YOU HAVE OFFENDED.FAILURE TO DO SO WILL RESULT IN A REFERRAL TO THE RELEVANT AUTHORITIES.I,LIKE MOST JC STUDENTS,WILL NOT,AND SHALL NOT,TOLERATE ANYTHING THAT DAMAGES COHESION BETWEEN STUDENTS WITH DIFFERENT SOCIAL AND EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUNDS,WHETHER IN PRINT MEDIA OR CYBERSPACE.IF YOU HAVE A CONSCIENCE,PLEASE APOLOGISE BEFORE WE GET NASTY!
